This board has the paddle of a longboard with the feel under your feet like a skateboard.

Hi,

Very nice looking boards.  I am interested in a shorter board.

I have only surfed about 20 days

mainly on 9′+ long boards.

The short boards I have tried in the past have been simply too much for me and the small San Diego surf.

I’m a very athletic 5′-11″, 200lbs.

What size and model would you suggest?

Thanks

Court

Hi Court,

I’d be glad to help you out.

I just need to know some other info in order

to dial in the magic board for you….

What is your age, height, and weight….and the dimensions of the short boards you tried that didn’t work for you (if you know the dimensions; if you don’t that is ok and not a critical thing). Looking forward to your reply and to helping you dial into the perfect board to take your surfing to the next level,

Aloha,

Todd

Hi Todd,

Thanks for getting back so quickly.

I’m 37, 5’-11”, 200lbs, thick hockey player

body type in good athletic shape.

In the past I’ve tried shorter boards around the 7’ to 7’6” very similar to your Manatee and Mini shapes.  These were fun in Maui and Oahu with a 3’-4’ swell but I struggled catching waves in San Diego when things got small.

I like the idea of a wider, thicker board to float my big ass into the wave and then have a shorter (6’-6”?) board feeling once up and in the wave.

I guess a similar feeling as my 46” skateboard?  Being new to the sport I’m not sure if this is even possible with a board design for someone at 200lbs.

This will be my first board, and

I’d like it to be something I can enjoy

for several years in all types of conditions.

Living her in AZ I’m lucky to get 15 days a year but maybe with a killer board I might find my way west more often.  I look forward to hearing from you.  Thanks.

Court

Hi Court,

I know the perfect board for you…..the Lil’ Rascal,

but yours would be kinduva big Rascal –

6’8” x 22+ x 3”.

This board has the paddle of a longboard

with the feel under your feet like a skateboard.

The best board for catching waves on small days as well as having the versatility to ride in just about any conditions you can encounter from two foot dribblers to head high and a little over.

Check out http://www.proctorsurf.com/Surf-Boards/?page_id=830….that’s your board.

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a Lil’ (big) Rascal. Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,

Todd

CHECK OUT THE RASCAL SERIES IN THE ONLINE SURF SHOP

Heavy front footed surfer, live in San Diego and surf all up and down the SOCAL coast

Todd,

I like your ideas in board construction

and I’m in the market for a new shortboard.

My info is below.  Which board would be best for me and if you think I should order a custom board, what is your opinion on the shape I would need?  Thanks in advance for your reply.

6’2
185 lbs

Heavy front footed surfer

I live in San Diego and surf all up and down the SOCAL coast.   I have been surfing for 10+ years, but am still struggling to progress.

I can do a few good turns on a wave,

but am not killing it and often catch rails.

This will be my primary shortboard and will replace a 6’3 Sharpeye (19″ wide) which rode ok, but I don’t think it fit my front footed style.

Any ideas???

God bless,
Jonathan

Hi Jonathan,

Sorry to take so long to get back to you…been very busy here…Anyway, I read through all of your info you sent through and I know the magic board for you….
First off,

the board you have now sounds like it is too small and has a rocker/ bottom curve and bottom contours that don’t suit your style i.e. front-footed.

There are a lot of front-footed surfers just like you and that is why

I designed a board that specifically caters to driving more off the front foot.

This board is called the G-4.E

and it is actually my most versatile

high performance shortboard design….

perfect too for the variety of waves we get in Cali.

The G-4 has

• a moderate entry rocker to get you into waves easily,

• a flatter fun through the middle/ under your front foot for bursts of speed down the line

• and positive carry through flat spots (non-rail digger),

• and a fair amount of tail rocker to keep it crisp and loose in turns and free in the pocket.

The single-to-double concave bottom is also a major important factor for you since this particular hull contour drives really well off the front foot.

I think you ought to be going 6’4″ – 6’5″ x 19 1/8″ x 2 1/2″ and

I think you might like a swallowtail….

helps keep the tail looser and works well

for more front-footed surfers.

I make this board in the traditional polyester construction as well as our unique Proxy/ custom flexible epoxy construction. The standard polyester is $585.00 and includes fin system and fins, while the Proxy is $735.00 and includes fin system and fins….both construction methods are made with the best materials for their perspective categories as well as using the highest craftsmanship, however, Proxy is the premium board I make for both strength and performance.
Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a magic G-4.E. Looking forward to your reply,
Aloha,

Todd

Todd,

Thanks for the reply and no worries about the short delay.  I’m definitely interested in the G-4.E.  I’ll take your advice and move up to a 6’4 with the dimensions of your choosing for my height/weight/style info.  I’ve never had a swallow tail, but am willing to try it out.

This will be the shortboard I travel with

so I want it to be as strong as possible.

Therefore, I’ll go with the Proxy.

Do you recommend any of the other proxy options?  Are their any other choices I need to make before placing my order?  Thanks Todd!

Jonathan

Hi Jonathan,

Ok sounds good…I think we’ve covered all the design/ shape info pretty good…so as far as upgrades to the Proxy goes…
The standard Proxy construction is really strong as is…

there are a few upgrades you can get such as

Kevlar compression patch for an additional $85.00 -

I would recommend this if you have issues crushing in the decks of your boards really bad;

it this isn’t really a problem, then the added strength of the standard Proxy is going to work great for you.

Another option is the carbon hinge flextail f

or an additional $85.00 -

this works pretty sick since it allows me to thin the tail area out a bit giving the board a real whippy tail through turns; kind of a slingshot effect;

the carbon keeps the tail from fatiguing in that area as

well as reinforcing the toe and heal areas of the tail

from crushing in over time (good also if you have

issues with crushing in the rails in your tails).

There are also parabolic stringers which are an additional $100.00 if you want a real springy flex out of the board.
Personally, I would just go with the standard Proxy with maybe the carbon hinge in the tail…that gives you a high performance board with great strength.

The only other thing would be the color for the board.

The Proxy comes included with the price of the board a two color spray…

since you’ll be having this board around longer than a typical construction board, it keeps them from looking dingy over time….alleviates the yellowing look. Check out this link to see the various options for color that come with the board

http://www.proctorsurf.com/Surf-Boards/?page_id=238

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have.  Once you decide on those last few things, my wife Charissa will send you the breakdown and invoice to your e-mail. You can do an e-sign with credit card or debit card for the down payment…final payment due when the board is done. Or ir you prefer to call in to the factory showroom to dial things in you can call me here at (805) 658-7659.

Looking forward to making a magic Proxy G-4.E for you,
Speak soon,

Todd

Todd,

Cool.  I will order the 6’4 with specs you’ve mentioned below.

I’ll add the carbon, but not the kevlar.

For the color I’ll go with the standard fade design with the “SKY” color.  Looking forward to it.

One of my best friends should be contacting you about a board soon, if he hasn’t already.   He just got back from another deployment in Iraq and will be giving you a call.  His name is Greg Pruett….another brother in Christ.  We went to college together and are now in the Navy.  Keep an eye out for him.

God bless,
Jonathan

Hi Jonathan,

Great…then we’ve got it dialed. Charissa will be sending over the breakdown for you. She will walk you through that part of things….it’s very simple. Do you have a preference regarding the logo placement?

I was thinking black logo up in the nose,

or running diagonal from the stringer over/

down to the rail…

lemme know…
I’ll make you a great board. Please let me know if you have any other questions along the way. We will call you and/ or e-mail you when the board is done.
Thanks brother and God bless you too

Todd

P.S. – I’ll keep an eye/ ear out for your buddy Greg..

What's the differences between the Falcon and the Greased Pig

Hey Todd,

What’s the differences between the

Falcon and the Greased Pig

as far as the way they ride and what kind of waves they’re good for?
Thanks,
Kent

Hello, sorry to not get back with you sooner….

have been very busy here. Anyway,

the Falcon is a version of my

Rascal II model with a more pointy nose.

The Falcon is exceptional in very small scale, weak waves….

very fast like a fish, but with the responsiveness of a modern board for modern performance maneuvers.

The rocker is very flat on the Falcon.

The Greased Pig also excels in small wave performance surfing.

It is a bit more versatile than the Falcon and will surf clean in up to head high waves as well as small little crumblers.

The Falcon is really a specialized design for the real small-scale crumblers…..and is best suited for making the weakest stuff a speed course and demolition of any thing even close to resembling a lip in the dismal conditions.

Hope that answers your questions. Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a magic Proctor Falcon or Greased Pig.

If you let me know your height, weight, experience/ how long you’ve been surfing, the type of waves you need the board for, and the dimensions/ basic design of your current board; I will detail the best design and dimensions for you.

Aloha,

Todd

Hey Todd,

Thanks for the information, I think the Greased Pig is what I’m looking for. I’m currently riding a 5’4″ x 19.25″ x 2.1875″ Proxy Rascal and a 5’10″x 18.75 x 2.25″ Al Merrick KSmall. I love the paddle, speed/flow and responsiveness of the Rascal and the KSmall works better with waves that have some shape.

I’m looking for an everyday board

to surf Huntington Beach,

something that rides more like a performance board but has more speed for the average HB days.
Like everybody I’m looking for the balance of speed and maneuverability, I’ve ridden small wave boards that are fast but don’t seem to redirect, turn sharply or fit a wave with some curve (flat tail rocker?, wide nose?, wide tail?) and other grovelers that have a lot of tail rocker and turn great but loses that drive.

So I’m thinking with the stinger along with the vee in the tail will keep it loose/responsive

and the low rocker will keep it fast. So if you think the Greased Pig is the right board for me what dimensions would you suggest? I’m 5’2″, 145 lbs., 25 yrs. experience.
Thanks,
Kent

Hi Kent,

The Greased Pig is the perfect board for you.

I would go 5’7″ -5’8″ x 18 3/4″ x 2 1/4″ single wing swallowtail. The overall rocker is a performance rocker just flattened throughout with lower entry and spiral vee running off the tail.

That gets it into waves quick,

down the line speed bursts,

yet keeps the tail nice and free

with that spiral vee.

So you get a board that basically has the responsiveness of a performance board, yet maintains the essential speed for small wave ripping. It is versatile enough to speed course knee high mushy Huntington as well as shoulder to head high punchy Huntington.
Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a Greased Pig. Looking forward to your reply, Aloha,

Todd

Visit the Greased Pig in the Proctor online Board Shop

I trust you to give sound advice and help me cut through the hype and confusion

Hey Todd,

I am absolutely loving the quad board

you made for me a year or two ago–

#6902, 6’6″x19″x2.5″.
If you recall, I’m 5’9″, about 158 lbs, and in really good shape.

It is my main board for almost everything

I encounter between Oxnard and Jalama.

It has really taken my riding up a huge amount– I am ripping all over the wave, turning much faster and harder, able to take off better and really get into the waves and take lines I had always dreamed of but couldn’t pull off.  It is so much fun pumping the board up and down the face, generating speed, then cutting hard on the top of the wave and on the bottom of the wave.  At Rincon I can take a big drop, make a nice bottom turn, and pump down the line and get around sections….all that great stuff I really struggled with before…

I have yet to find a situation where it feels better as a thruster than as a quad.

It feels like the board paddles faster and also moves faster as a quad,

and probably because I am a front-footed

surfer to a fault,

(years of skateboarding I guess),

it never feels too loose for me.

My bottom turns have really progressed and gotten much more aggressive, so the quad does not feel too loose for my style and technique.

Despite my total satisfaction, I am wondering about a second board.  It would be a step-up board–

something that helps me paddle into bigger,

juicier waves like you can get on a

good day at Tarantula’s–

well overhead to double overhead.  I had really good luck with a Becker 7’6″ mini-gun thruster design up there– it got the waves early, held great and caught the face even on almost vertical or air drops, and was very maneuverable once it was flying with the kind of speed that a big, powerful wave generates.  But I dinged that board (someone else dropped in on me and cut it up bad) and it was never the same after the repair (nose felt too heavy) so I sold it.  I picked up a used 7′ Matt Moore thruster, and it feels great, but doesn’t seem to have enough volume and/or length to actually catch big waves very well.  I am a strong paddler but I have seen stronger out there, especially on North Shore Hawaii.  Even though the MM 7′ board is longer and probably has more volume, I think the 6’6″ quad board you made me actually paddles faster!  I  haven’t actually tried the 6’6″ at T’s on a bigger day, but  I probably will try it until I have something else…

So I was at Jalama just yesterday, with well overhead to double overhead set waves, and I was using my Clyde Beatty Rocket Fish, approx 6’4″ length, big twin fin with tiny little baby trailer fins for a quasi-quad.  (I was expecting it to be smaller up there so I took  the Fish.  I was pleasantly surprised that real sets were still coming in, I guess you could  say.)  It had the huge advantage of paddling power for catching the waves, but of course felt too squirrelly to try any big moves- I had to be ginger with any bottom turns and carve careful lines.
Despite its loose, skatey feel, I have to say that I absolutely loved the extra paddle power I was getting with the Rocket Fish– reminded me of the extra paddle power I had been getting with the Becker mini-gun.

On top of that, I read all about Kelly’s exploits on this weird, tiny, thick board he made that is more or less a K-Step board with the nose cut off.  And I know that good riders are pulling into heavy waves like Pipe on boards way shorter than I would think could be used….so it raises the question, is it really more about total volume, or is length also essential for holding on the wave during and after the drop?

Or, is wave face holding really more

about rail/tail shape and fin setup?

Clearly, if Kelly can ride a 5’6″ or something board at places like Teahupoo and Pipe, length is perhaps not such a critical issue.
Tow-in boards are short, too, so by simple deduction I have to conclude that length is not the crucial factor for big-wave holding power– it’s really more for paddling power.  Then again, the tow-in boys don’t have to deal with vertical semi-air drops, either.  But, if a short, thick fish can have plenty of paddle power, maybe I don’t need a gun or mini-gun for bigger days when I mainly just need to paddle faster??

So, anyway, bottom line is I am kind of wondering whether something just a touch thicker, and/or a touch wider, and/or a touch more pin-ny in the tail, and/or with slightly bigger fins would be the ticket for a step up board that would help me in bigger, stronger waves, but that would still feel a lot like the board you already made for me.  Something that would potentially perform as well as my 7’6 mini-gun, without actually being a minigun?  Something that is also good for a front- or center- footed surfer?

It shouldn’t feel too loose in a big,

fast wave, but should feel loose

enough in smaller waves, too.

Finally, why not just get a mini-gun?  Well, I guess I still am thinking there is a board out there that really should work well for me in almost anything I will  encounter here in So. Cal— if it’s just got a bit more paddle power than the board you already made for me, and holds well at high speed, then it should work in just about anything.  If it’s strictly designed for big waves, then I worry it will feel sluggish in the small stuff, and I will have to bring at least a two-board quiver on some of my surf quests.  I would rather look at the buoy readings, make the call and pick one board, and if when I arrive at the surf spot it turns out I made the wrong board choice, the board still works pretty well.  One time I took the Becker to Jalama and it was way smaller than I was expecting– below head high with only Cracks working– and that board totally sucked in those conditions.

In fact, for now, I think on my next big wave session I am just going to take the 6’6″ board you made for me and see if I can get the job done with that board….I suspect that if I can paddle hard enough it will take great care of me once I’m on the wave.  Put it this way– I was way happier making do with a Rocket Fish on well overhead waves than I was making do with a 7’6″ mini-gun on shoulder high waves– the fish still made for an epic session and the mini-gun was total crap.

Of course, for a “step-up board” I would just as soon go with one of your more stock designs rather than a fully custom design if you think you have something that you would recommend.  I think I read somewhere that you are  combining one of your groveler designs with the Blackbird design…maybe something like that is the thing to go for?  Maybe a board with slightly more volume than the one you made for me, possibly with two different fin setups- bigger fins for well overhead,  and smaller ones for head high and below waves?

Anyway, I immediately thought of you because

a) you already made one “magic board” for me;

b) you are a very progressive shaper

and are thinking about these kinds of things; and

c) I trust you to give sound advice and

help me cut through the hype and confusion.

I have surfed Hawaii North Shore in double-overhead + at Haleiwa, Lani’s, and Chun’s, and I know first-hand that I will probably still try to get hold of a serious 8′ mini-gun or something when I am there, because those waves were insanely fast, thick, and powerful for their size– like nothing I’ve ever seen anywhere, and those boys over there can paddle like nothing I’ve ever seen before, too.  But I am starting to think that there is a more conventional board shape that should work well for me in just about everything that we see here, even on our biggest west swells– something that is not necessarily a mini-gun or gun design.

Granted, those North Shore boys are

on a whole different level–

they were still using boards about a foot shorter than me and doing just fine….so I realize that it’s not just the surfboard, it’s the surfer, too.  If I could paddle like a pro or a North Shore local I probably could do it all on the board you already made for me.

But I’m just an intermediate surfer,

don’t do contests, and am looking

for a board that works for me,

not a board that works for a pro.

Thanks and I look forward to hearing your thoughts–

–
Chris M

Hi Chris,

Good to hear from you. Sounds like you’ve been well and been getting plenty of waves. Stoked the board we did is going good for you!!

I always enjoy getting the feedback

from everybody…so cool…

Anyway, I read through your very thorough breakdown; thanks, good job on explaining your thoughts; it has helped make it very clear for me to know exactly the direction you should go.

You are spot on with your ideas

regarding overall volume for paddling

as opposed to just length.

In the majority of the waves we get here in California anyway, you can get away with a shorter board if the overall volume matches what is right for you as an individual surfer. Judging off what you have written here and the dimensions of your last board, I think you could stay with the length of 6’6″ but go 19 1/2″ x 2 5/8″ with a thumbtail. This will give you the paddleability necessary for the bigger/ hollower days when more water is moving.

The thumbtail comes in good on those

days too with a nice positive hold in the power.

I would keep the rail volume close to the same as your current board; maybe slightly fuller, but mostly just more foam in the middle for paddling and

keep the deck domed foiling down to a rail

that is still going to be responsive and

positive through turns.

I would keep the same overall rocker and hull contours as that particular rocker is very versatile generating speed in smaller waves, yet still holding in on the powerful ones. Possibly just a touch less entry rocker for early entry into waves and increased drive down the line and carry through flat spots…same tail rocker.
Let me know your thoughts. Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. Looking forward to your reply, Aloha,

Todd

Hey, Todd,

That sounds like the ticket.  I think I will order this from you, but not right away– in a month or two.

Chris M

Ok Chris, Sounds good….

just lemme know when you are ready to roll, or if you have any other questions please don’t hesitate to ask.
Have a great day,
Aloha,

Todd

Greased Rascal is great for knee high to head high

What would be the board that pushes back more through turns than the accelerator

but yet is more responsive/maneuverable than the rascal 2? I guess it would be something between the lines of those two models.  Maybe the module?  Yesterday you mentioned the greased rascal, which seems to fill this gap too.

Mauricio P

Hi Mauricio,

The Greased Rascal would fill this gap, but so would the Greased Pig. Either of those are insane for more push back than the Accelerator and more responsive than the Rascal 2.

The Greased Pig is slightly more versatile

and will work in gutless small and even up to slightly overhead, whereas the

Greased Rascal is great for knee high to head high.

Both can fit in small, yet tight hollow beachbreak kind of stuff too, which I know you get there. Just to give you an idea regarding dims – Greased Pig you would ride right around 5’10” x 18 7/8” x 2 ¼”; and the Greased Rascal right around 5’8” x 19” x 2 ¼”….the rails on both are more shortboardy, but fuller than the accelerator rails, yet less volume than the Rascal rails. These are a couple of my current favs…Let me know any other questions you have.
Have a good evening brother,

Todd

Thanks for your insight!  As soon as I sell a couple of my older boards I’ll order up a greased pig.  Out of curiosity, what dims are you using on this board?

Mauricio

what are the waves like that you need a Rascal for?

Hi Proctor Team,

I live down in Huntington beach and have been hearing a lot of good things about your boards.  I was wondering if there was a dealer close to Huntington so I can walk in and take a look at some boards, or is the only shop in Ventura?

All the best,

Lawrence

Hi Lawrence,

I build the majority of my boards custom…

direct to surfers,

so I do not deal with accounts really except for distribution companies outside of the U.S. The best thing would be for you to come up to our Ventura factory/ showroom…this is where all the boards are made. If you can find a way to make it up, it really is worth it. The best thing to do is to set up an appointment letting us know when you are coming up and I can meet with you, show you the different board models we have in stock here that would work good for you…It is a good idea to bring your old boards to show me what you are coming off and the explain to me the direction you want to go with your surfing i.e. more carvy, more airs, fins free stuff, etc…

then I break down what is going to

be the best board design

and dimensions for you to go with to get you where you want to take your surfing. That is what I have done for over 17 years with surfers and this unique personal approach really gets you the board that is going to be the best for you.
Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have.
Looking forward to your reply,
Aloha,
Todd

Hey Todd,

Many thanks for the email.

Your website is probably the most

informative website

I have come across in my search for the ultimate small wave board.  It doesn’t take much to get me up to SB.  I’m traveling a fair bit the next 2weeks for work, but will try to make it up during the latter part of Feb.  I’ll keep you posted. Look forward to visiting the shop.

All the best,
Lawrence

Sounds great Lawrence,

I look forward to hearing from you/ meeting you later in the month.
Aloha,
Todd

Hey Todd,



Is the shop in ventura open on sunday? Do you also carry used boards? If so do you have any lil rascals in the 6’3 to 6’6 range?

All the best,
Lawrence

Hi Lawrence,

Sorry to take so long to get back with you….had a lot on my plate lately…anyway, we are not open on Sundays, but we are open Saturdays. I don’t have any used Rascals in that size range at the moment, but I may have a friend who is going to sell a 6’6″ Rascal….he is sizing down to a 6’3″. He really likes his 6’6″ but has recently dropped like 20 pounds so is ordering a smaller one, but probably will be looking to sell the 6’6″ maybe….I could check into it if you like? What is your height, weight, age, how long have you been surfing,

what are the waves like that you need a Rascal for?

If you let me know those things, I am more than happy to detail the perfect dimensions/ design for a Rascal for you. Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a magic Lil Rascal. Looking forward to your reply,
Aloha,
Todd

Hey Todd,

No worries…

I grew up surfing on the outer banks

(North Carolina),

started surfing in the fifth grade…In 2001 I moved to New York where I worked in finance. by 2006 I was married, just welcomed my first daughter into the world, and could count on two hands the number of times I had been surfing.  Life’s too short…we pulled the rip cord on NYC beginning part of 2007 and moved to socal. I’m still in finance, so 2008 was an interesting year, but still able to spend more time with my girls and in the water…

I’m 6’3, 190-200lbs, and 30yrs old.

grew-up surfing longboards and your typical shortboard thruster range in size from 6’8 to 7’0. Looking to broaden my horizon on surfboard design to challenge and improve my surfing..I think the rascal would be a good substitute for my longboard, plus I live in Huntington beach,

where the waves sometimes have soft shoulders

even when chest to head high and would be a good substitute for my shortboard.

I have never really surfed fish designs…

so this is a new experience for me. if I had to guess the optimal dimensions on a rascal for me would be 6’3,21, 2 3/4… but to avoid early frustrations, I might want to get something a little bit larger..what do you think?  experienced wise, I would classify myself as intermediate..not taking anything vertical, but I love speed and power moves…

Many thanks,
Lawrence

RASCAL SERIES ONLINE SURF BOARD SHOP

The G-4.E generates incredible speed and has good carry through flat spots,

I have a question regarding the Big Chief 6’10″ x 21″ x 3″

double wing swallow. I’d like to know what the nose and
tail widths are.

Hi,

The nose is right around 12″ and the tail right around 15″.
If you let me know your age, height, weight, experience, and the type of waves you need the board for…I can detail the magic design and dimensions for you…..or do you just want dimension info for your own use? Aloha, Todd

Todd

Thanks for your response. I was kind of thinking of stealing
your ideas. I’m kidding.

I’m 40 years old and have been

surfing for 30 years.

My skill level is well above intermediate – advanced but well below of course an expert/pro level. I’m about 5’11″ and 250 pounds. At 170 I rode mostly 6’1″ to 6″4″ boards right around 18.5″ and 2.25″. When I got up to 210 to 220 a 6’5″ x 19.5″ x 2 7/16″ gave me a good balance of drive and turn. I spend about one week a month in Orange County (Newport to Surfside/Sunset Beach mostly) and the rest of the time it’s Ventura.

I surf beach breaks almost exclusively.

I just need an everyday board for small to a bit overhead surf. Something that can be surfed aggressively and won’t fight me with too much length or thickness. I don’t mind having to paddle. It might even be good for me. Thanks for your time.

Hi ….Johnny is it??

I recommend a 6’6″ x 19 5/8″ x 2 5/8″ (nose at 11 7/8″ and tail at 14 3/4″ Big Chief/ G-4.E….this is the most versatile high performance shortboard I make.

The Big Chief dimensions

give it the perfect amount of foam

so your board pushes back through turns and complements your build rather than your typical stock board which usually caters to 150- 180 lb. surfers.

The G-4.E generates incredible speed and has

good carry through flat spots,

yet equally as well it holds in and surfs fast, loose and tight in the pocket without feeling like it’s going to slip out when you bear into it….a great board for the variety of conditions you encounter at beachbreaks, but one that really comes to life in the punchier stuff.
Well, please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a magic Proctor Big Chief/ G-4.E.
Looking forward to your reply,
Aloha,

Todd

My dream is to find something in between that is shaped for high performance rail to rail surfing and that can hold my 6'1", 245 lbs frame

What’s the biggest you can you with the Chief – 8′-8’6″.

Regardless, I am just glad to finally have found someone that can

relate to us the 80′s surfers that have

grown in size…just a bit

Ro

Hola Ro,

Yes, you can order the Big Chief in the

8’0″ – 8’6″ range.

If you let me know your height, weight, surfing experience and the type of waves you surf, i will detail the perfecto tabla para tu.

Todd

Todd,

I am an 1980′s- 90′s, surfer and

became addicted at the age of 11 (i am now 41+).

I swore that the day i had to ride a long board I would quit..well guess what?

About the only thing that floats and works for me is a 9’2″-9’6″ High performance 2+1 fin system Longboard. x 17 1/2″ x 22″ x 14″ x 2 3/4″-3″, with good rocker in the nose and tail, double into singleconcave, reverse V from the tail to the fins, round pin tail and SUPER boxy and sharp rails..specifically on the tail.

All that topped with a sanded finish painted white with white fins. Believe it or not, I ride the thing like if it was a 5’8″-6’0″ back in the days, rail to rail, hitting te lip and floaters ( i have problems with round houses wit the longboard), and I NEVER go near the nose.

My dream is to find something in between

that is shaped for high performance

rail to rail surfing and that can hold

my 6’1″, 245lbs frame

(well proportioned..i work out).

I can surf and don’t need some out the

rack fun or longboard. you feel me?

I have seen other shapers making some type of HP funboards and wonder is that is what I need. I don’t want a short board in a longboard body.

What can you do for me brother without having to go thicker than 3″ and wider than 20-21 with a round pin ., EXTRA BOXY and sharp rails, the concaves and V on a tri set up.

Cuanto dinero and would you ship and or can pick up around here somewhere locally in Northern FL.

Thanks,
Ro

BTW.. Your funboards look like hey are shaped for performance and from what I can see. they have all the goodies? Would it be a better fit for me than the Chief?

Ro

Ro,

I just read the last part of your e-mail again regarding the pricing for a board like this.
A 7’8” x 21” x 3” Big Chief or Funshape is $625.00 for poly construction (standard foam and fiberglass), or $750.00 for our unique “Proxy” custom flexible epoxy construction….this is the premium board I make i.e. stronger, lighter, slightly more buoyant. Both prices include fin system and fins. We can ship your board directly to you in Florida. We have much experience with shipping custom boards worldwide for over 10 years with great results. Packing and shipping to your door would be approximately $125.00 including insurance.

Looking forward to your reply and to the possibility of making you the magic board for your build and surfing experience….for you to rip on.

Just for your information, payment of 50% of the total price gets the board started. It takes approximately 2-3 weeks to complete the board at which time the final payment is due prior to shipment.

Since the sale is out of state….you don’t have to pay any tax….so that is a nice thing that saves you some money too.

Aloha,

Todd

but I’m a big guy (210 lbs) and don’t want a big fish

Hi,

I am interested in the little rascal,

but I’m a big guy (210 lbs) and

don’t want a big fish.

If I’m 5’11”, how short on the board can I go? I would really like a shorter, skatey board (say between 5’6” and 5’9”) that I can play around with in the shorebreak. Is this possible?

Thanks,

Tony

Hi Tony,

What your looking for and wanting is very possible….in fact with the Lil’ Rascal it is reality….I recommend you go

5’8″ x 20 1/2″ x 2 5/8″ Rascal….

flat deck with full boxy rails…..

this would be the magic for you….

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a magic Rascal to go looney bins mental in the shorebreak. Looking forward to your reply,
Aloha,

Todd

maybe you can shed some light on how this particular model would work vs. the g4 in these conditions.

Hey todd!

Hope you guys are doing well.

I’ve got the accelerator that seems

to like the flat faced weak waves

that we get in florida a lot.

On occasion and at certain beachbreaks the waves will be small (waist to shldr) but have more shape and back to them. I find these conditions/spots would like a groveling board still but with more bottom entry curve than the accelerator.

It seems like the small wave destroyer

would be the call,

but maybe you can shed some light on how this particular model would work vs. the g4 in these conditions.

God bless!

Mauricio, Miami, Florida

Hi Mauricio,

The Small Wave Destroyer has a very similar tail rocker to the SR-71, but with a low entry rocker similar to the Accelerator…..

so I think the G-4.E is going to be

more what you are looking for

since waves like your describing tend to like a fair bit of bend in the entry rocker of the board to fit the intitial drop and be able to climb the wall without the front end catching.

The G-4 is kinda like the entry of the SR-71 with less rocker through the second half of the board, but with a little release off the tail to keep it nice and loose and snappy out of turns. I think G-4 in 5 11 1/2″ – 6’0″ x 18 1/2″ x 2 1/4″… with a squash or swallowtail. I think this would be the

magic for waist to shoulder better

shape/ more back days.

God Bless you too amigo….how is the family?

Todd

Todd, thanks for your response.

So do you recommend the G-4.E or the G-4.P for these conditions? What are the differences between these two models?

Hi Mauricio,

I recommend the G-4.E. The difference between the two is that

the G-4.E has a slight bit more rocker

in the middle of the board….

so this will give it that nice smooth transition zone in the small, but hollow waves; keeping it loose to fit tight into the steep corners and come driving out without hang-ups.

The Groveler IV.p has a bit more of a flat spot between the feet which is good for carry through the flats, but I think a little bend in the mid rocker would be the ideal rocker to fit the type of small, but punchy and quick burst kinda hollow waves.

The entry rocker and tail rockers on both the Groveler models are the same, the only real difference is the slight bend in the middle as opposed to the slightly flatter spot through the mid rocker.
Lemme know if that makes sense….

Aloha,

TP