Performance Longboard: Shaper Breakdown

This board blends a bit of the old world with the new. A lot of times performance longboards lose all their performance because they have way too much rocker/ bottom curve to make them practical….unless your only surfing bowly beachbreak…and c’mon …really…?

Nobody wants to ride a longboard that feels like it’s pushing water.
So, I’ve kept this design with a bit of that traditional trim speed concept alive and kicking…enabling you to set it on rail and glide and walk the nose. This is done primarily with what’s called a three stage rocker, or bottom curve profile which has a pretty low entry with just enough curve up front to make the late take-offs on bigger and hollower days, and the ability  to make a nice steep redirecting bottom turn…..smooth like butter…not margarin.

The mid-section has a flatter run through it…this is where the flow and trim speed come from. Finally the last third of the board I have a pretty sweeping crisp and loose tail rocker to keep her nice and responsive. The bottom contours consist of a good amount of nose concave the front 36” for grip and lift during tip-time. The midsection splits to a double concave or tri-plane hull configuration that flows into a pronounced spiral vee apexing at the fin cluster…this let’s her lay over rail-to-rail real nice…drivey like, but not slippy…nice and positive redirectional flow that gains speed out of turns…that’s the beauty of concaves.

I put a subtle chime or bevel out where the concaves hit the rail…this keeps the board from feeling sticky and let’s the water release out of the concaves and jump off the rails keeping the board nice and forgiving out of turns. This board is a favorite among veteran traditionalists, pros and beginners alike for it’s incredible performance and versatility; The staple of my longboard line.
Experience: Beginner to Advanced

Check out the board in 360 degree views and various surfing movies here

next level rung in the ladder of performance surfing

Hey Todd and Charissa,

This is Jeff. You guys customed me a lil’ rascal end of last season. I just wanted to write you guys an email and let you know that so far this season it has been epic. The board rips, and is super fun. So glad my sister hooked that up.

My skill level has jumped tenfold

and my stoke even more!

Now on to business….
Within the next probably three to four months I am thinking about picking up a shortboard. With the results I had from dealing with Proctor I am for sure going to be getting it through you guys. The only thing I am unsure of is what exactly I am looking for. Like I said before my skill has jumped but I dont think I am out of the beginner woods just yet. Basically any info you could throw at me in regards to what I should be looking at would be awesome. No rush! I know you guys have a lot on your plates.

I’m basically looking to keep

developing skill wise, and step up

to some bigger waves and bigger challenges.

I hope this email finds you both in good health, and better spirits.
-Jeff

Hey Jeff,

Todd here….sorry to take so long to get back to you….just been super slammed. Anyway, Charissa said she dialed you in on all the price stuff for the different constructions…..so now for my part….well, first off, I’m really stoked that the board we did has been such a blessing to you and has improved your surfing that much….that’s the goal I shoot for, so that’s sick.

As for a shortboard design,

the ideal one for you right now

at this stage would be the G-4.f

This board model is my most versatile all-around high performance shortboard that works in everything from knee high mush to overhead and heavy and hollow.

The best dimensions for you would be something in the 6’10” x 20” x 2 5/8” range. Drop the length down from your last board, bring the width in and thin it out a bit.

This will challenge you, but not

frustrate you and get you to the

next level rung in the ladder of performance surfing.

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a custom Proctor G-4.f. Looking forward to your reply,
Aloha,

Todd

I thought surfing would just go down hill after 40

Hi Todd,
This is Mark from Taiwan.
Got the proxy Greased Pig in June, but we had the longest flat spell ever until last week we had some shoulder to head high Typhoon waves.

As usual the board works insane

and you got the volume just right,

It’s even faster and fits tighter

in the pocket than my PU Greased Pig.

Thanks for another great board and my surfing is improving everyday.

I thought surfing would just go down hill after 40.

With all the speed of the Greased Pig

I am starting to pull air on a regular basis

and it’s only a matter of time before I  land them.

I saw your new creation The Monsta and the board looks and sounds insane.  My friend Mao Mao wrote to you to compare the Monsta with the Greased Pig, which is what I recommended him to get.  You said it’s faster, catches waves easier, fits in the pocket better and can surf bigger and smaller waves than the Greased Pig.  Sounds too good to be true!  I have to get one!  What dimensions would you recommend for me in proxy?

Would the Monsta work in Bali reef breaks?

Hope all is well,
Mark   5’9″  155 lb
Custom Proxy Epoxy Greased Pig
5’8″ x 18 5/8″ x 2 1/8″
Teamlite Glassing

Hi Todd, This is Mark from Taiwan.  Got the proxy Greased Pig in June, but we had the longest flat spell ever until last week we had some shoulder to head high Typhoon waves.  As usual the board works insane and you got the volume just right, It’s even faster and fits tighter in the pocket than my PU Greased Pig.  Thanks for another great board and my surfing is improving everyday.  I thought surfing would just go down hill after 40.  With all the speed of the Greased Pig I am starting to pull air on a regular basis and it’s only a matter of time before I  land them.  I saw your new creation The Monsta and the board looks and sounds insane.  My friend Mao Mao wrote to you to compare the Monsta with the Greased Pig, which is what I recommended him to get.  You said it’s faster, catches waves easier, fits in the pocket better and can surf bigger and smaller waves than the Greased Pig.  Sounds too good to be true!  I have to get one!  What dimensions would you recommend for me in proxy?  Would the Monsta work in Bali reef breaks? Hope all is well,Mark   5’9″  155 lb
Custom Proxy Epoxy Greased Pig5’8″ x 18 5/8″ x 2 1/8″Teamlite Glassing

the Monsta is a versatile small waves/ weak waves board

Hey Todd. Hope all is well. You have got my attention with this Monsta

board. I saw the vid and you had mentioned that the board could be rode from ankle high to triple overhead. Would that be 3 to 5 inches still shorter than my normal 6’2″.
I’ve seen alot of guys (Slater) riding bigger waves on alot shorter boards than what the traditional standard has been. So was wandering if that was what this board was, or if you wanted it for those types of larger scale waves if you would then just increase length, thickness. I would assume if it stayed shorter than your norm than when it
got big, we would be talking double overhead as in big bowly pushback swells and not hard sucking over reef type waves. In otherwords it doesn’t take precedence over boards like the Ante Up, Or Pipecleaners and such or no. Or is it coming down to preference in shape?
What would be my ideal size be for this board. I think you and I are pretty much the same as far as board size goes. I believe your norm is 6’1″ and I 6’2″. I still would like to purchase also at some point the Howitzer on the wall if you think that would suit me or we will have to build one from scratch.Here is what I have left to obtain.
Ante Up, Pipecleaner, West Peak, Howitzer, and now a MONSTA!
Anyway you guys take care and I look forward to your reply.
Aloha.
Hayden

Hi Hayden,

Thanks, yea all is great here. My Monsta is 5’8″ x 19 1/8″ x 2 1/4″….so
you would go an inch longer and a hair wider and maybe a 1/16″ thicker.

The Monsta is designed to turn average waves

into fast, rippable racetracks;

Mediocre conditions into the high performance zone. It has a subtle, flatter rocker through the front half of the board that generates speed like a fishier board, but it differs from the fishy boards in that it has more tail rocker. This allows it to surf quicker and tighter and more high performance than typical “weak waves” boards. This extra rocker through the back half is also what enable it to surf bigger more powerful waves and be able to handle it….making it a very versatile board. It is not intended to be a big waves board or replace a board like the ante up or other guns for the powerful conditions. I still believe that the gunnier boards are best suited to bigger waves and specialized for that specific kind of surfing. I think increased rail line draws prettier lines on big waves than the short stubby boards.

So, in a nutshell, the Monsta is a versatile

small waves/ weak waves board that can handle

and still go really well in bigger and hollower stuff as well….

but by no means replaces the specialized designs

of guns for the real heavy stuff.

So my question for you is, what do you need more….a small waves
performance board that is versatile enough to handle bigger waves too i.e.
Monsta, or a board that is specifically designed to handle bigger waves? Let me know that and I can detail what would be the best design/ dimensions for you. Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. Looking
forward to your reply,
Aloha,
Todd

Hey Todd. Thanks for the input. It really helped me.

Here is what I’m thinking.

I guess I should stay to the more specifically

designed guns for the bigger stuff.

Here’s my reasoning for saying that and what I’m trying to put together.

I have a 6’0″ Falcon. 6’2″ G4E. 6’2″ SR-71.6’4″ Blackbird.

All by the way are out of this world.

I will never buy from anyone else, you got me dialed in to a T.

So my Falcon as I see it has my smaller wave base covered, the G4E and Blackbird has evrything above that , and the SR-71 is for the Bread and Butter. By the way I was in Puerto with that board and it was solid 8-10 ft and me and that board were one from the first wave.

Rad Please keep that one on file for sure. Got it saved on hard drive

Me and my wife travel frequently and I have family in Hawaii so I would like to have some boards built for over there and Indo. Pretty much whereever we go I want to have something I can go to.That said, I think I have my shortboard side of it all complete for the most part. My Blackbird being 6’4″ is the biggest out of your boards. And going to different places especially Hawaii I am going to need bigger boards, Bottom Line.

So I will need an Ante Up Im thinking how Tamayo had his set up. Size I will leave to you. I might even need two. One bigger than the other. Im thinking 6’7″

6’7” is good for the next one up from the 6’4” ….I recommend 6’7” x 18 ¾” x 2 3/8” SR-71 rocker on the standard Ante Up outline with a roundpin, or baby swallowtail. Tamayo’s magic one is a baby swallowtail with 6 channels off the tail. Same rail shape/ volume as the 6’2” Puerto SR-71 just with more dome and foam down the center of the board for paddling power to get you over the ledge early.  I have been dropping the entry rocker of the SR-71 just in the last ten inches of the board for a bit more paddle glide into waves which is working really good and still leaves all the responsiveness of the board intact….so a subtle change-up that I think would be a good way to go also for this board. Might be a good one to stay with the parabolic carbon rail construction for strength.

and one maybe 6’10″.

I would go same concept as the 6’7”, but just a bit more pulled in the outline with same width at 18 ¾”, but I recommend going 2 7/16 for the thickness….and once again keeping the same shortboardy rail shape/ volume for maximum response and sensitivity.

I will need one for when Pipe starts showing its colors, here Im thinking Pipecleaner, maybe 7’2″ish.

I would go with one of Tamayo’s files for this board….he actually has a 7’2” that is a really sick one that we honed just for Pipe and hollow barrels like that….best dims would be 7’2” x 18 5/8” x 2 ½” round pin….it also has a lower “glider” kind of entry rocker that gets you in early with tail rocker that is more extreme out the back half of the board….very similar to that of the SR-71 rocker curve, but just stretched out. I guess we would just call it the magic Tamayo 7’2”. You could go either with polyester construction with 6oz S-glass for durability (this is how Tamayo likes them), or with Super Duty Proxy standard.

And one for big sunset/Pipe for here I was leaning twards the West Peak, maybe 7’10″-8’4.

The West Peak is perfect for this….I would go 8’2” x 18 ¾” x 2 5/8” domed with pretty foiled out rails especially through the tail of the board; volume forward to paddling and plenty of foam domed out under the chest to get you in early.  Round Pin for sure. This one your could go poly with 6oz. S-glass for durability (this is how Tamayo likes this board too), or with Super Duty Proxy standard construction.

And finally the gnarly Big Daddy for Da Bay/Mavs…here goes back to the one you have on your showroom wall, the 10’2″.If you think that particular board would suit me I forget the width and thickness of it but atleast 3 plus inches thick for sure.

That big one in the showroom is an awesome board, but I think I wanna keep that one here. The dimensions are good on it so we can stay with 10’2” x 19 5/8” x 3 ¼”…..same outline, but I think we can incorporate the lower enty rocker thing into this board….similar to how Tamayo’s rockers are….plenty of early in and paddleability is paramount for a board like this. The bottom is a simple flat to panel vees through the back 1/3rd of the board. This one, I think poly with 6oz. S-glass multiple layers top and bottom with t-band ¼” spruce stringers is the best for a dampening flex characteristic on the big open ocean movers as well as for strength.

In otherwords I dont want to big of a gap in the size’s of boards I have. If the surfs there then I wanna be prepared and I wanna do it on one of your boards.

I like what you stand for and I think

you’re the best shaper around so thats where I’m putting my money.

Thanks again bro

And these boards, call me particular but I like my boards to be as strong as possible(Super Duty) if you will.

Boards arent cheap and I want not only longevity with them but durability. Albeit I understand if I put it in the wrong place that not even triple 6oz. e glass will hold it intact. But you get where Im coming from. So In a nutshell that is what Im looking to accomplish with the remainder of my quiver. Tell me what you think and I hope that helps you into understanding what Im trying to do. All in all I just want the board I need for when the time arises to be there in my quest for the ultimate ride. So we could even try out like SR-71/AnteUp or things like that. Or even take from what you have done with the Monsta(Lower entry and increased numbers off the tail) into all of them. Anyway dont wanna take anymorer of your time but let me know whaen you get around to it. Have a blessed day.

You too. Please feel free to ask any other questions or thoughts you may have. Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha, Todd

Hayden

Hi Hayden,

Thanks for the stoke….
makes me amped to super dial some more frothers for ya.

I followed up your questions/ remarks above in blue…

I just spent two months in Bali with it

Hello again

I was wondering if it was possible to order another board?  The board you guys made for me was great.

I just spent two months in Bali with it

and it has really helped me with my surfing.

I feel its time to take things to the next level.

So I’ve decided to go for a short board.  Don’t really know what size i should get but I was thinking an epoxy board because of traveling.  My measurements are 105 kg (231 lb) and 193 cm tall (6’3″).  Im an intermediate surfer.  I was thinking of a board that I can duck dive with.

Thanks a lot

Helge Bjornebye
Lil’ Rascal: 7’0″ x 22 1/2″ x 3″ swallow tail

Hi Helge,

Wow, two months in Bali….that sounds awesome!! I love Bali.
Anyway, the next level for you would be either (1) The Monsta….
Or (2) The Big Chief.
I’ll give you a brief breakdown of each for you to decide which sounds like the way you want to go….

The Monsta is similar to the Rascal in that it is easy to catch waves with and carries a lot of speed on the wave, however

the Monsta has a more shortboardy

nose outline and a more progressive rocker

allowing for more high performance style shortboard maneuvers on the wave than the Rascal. To make for easier duckdiving and to shed some of the extra foam, I suggest going 6’6” x 21” x 2 ¾” with a wide squashtail for big turns and nice release off the top.

The Big Chief is more of a standard

shortboard design, but build for guys over 200lbs.

This is a very versatile board and works excellent in high performance waves with conditions like Bali or shoulder high to overhead conditions. It favors waves that have some push and a more progressive high performance approach. If you are looking for full on high performance designed specifically for your build, then this would be the one. I recommend dimensions for this board at 6’8” x 20 ½” x 2 ¾” with a standard squashtail.

I also definitely recommend our unique Proxy/ custom epoxy construction….this is the highest grade board I make for both strength and performance. They are approximately 3-5 times stronger than polyester boards.
So, please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a magic custom Proctor….either the Monsta or the Big Chief….you can’t really go wrong with either of those. Looking forward to your reply,
Aloha,

Todd

hey

thanks for the fast reply and the great response.  After looking over the boards I think I’ll go for the proxy epoxy construction.  As for the size of the board I’ll leave it up to the experts.

Helge

board for the smaller waves of the summer and for beach break

Hi Todd and Charissa.

My name’s Kyle and I’m a surfer from Van Isle Canada.  The waves recently have died off after an amazing winter consisting of an Indo trip and some amazing pacific surf.  What a winter we had, I’m sure it was just as good down there if not better.  Over the last few years I’ve surfed everything from a 6″1 stretch quad, a 6″3 by 18 3/4 by 2 3/8 squash tail, and now over the last trip and winter I’ve been mainly on a 6″4 by 19 by 2 5/8  rounded pin.

I’m a pretty big guy, 6″3 and anywhere

from 190 to 205 depending.

I also for the most part have to wear a 6 mil wetsuit

up here so that must add a bit of weight too.  I’d say I’m an intermediate surfer by Canadian standards.  I hold my own at all my local breaks and can do pretty good off the lips and cutbacks etc but I’m not quite boosting airs as of yet.

I’m really interested in getting a board for the

smaller waves of the summer and

for beach break missions to Costa Rica

and really just for your average days.  From looking over your amazing website the two boards I think that would suit me the most are the Rascal 2 and the Falcon.

I think I’m leading a little more towards the

Falcon just because it sounds like a

bit more of an all around board

as I’m sure as soon as I get on it I wont want to get off of it.  I do want the drive through flat sections and am really interested in the whole “skateboard” feel of the Rascal 2 so I was just wondering if you thought the Falcon would offer that as well.  I was also wondering what you thought the ideal dimensions would be for me and lastly what the shipping costs would be to either Vancouver or Victoria BC Canada. Thank you so much for your time and I look forward to your input and a new surfboard!

Kyle

Hi Kyle,

Nice to meet you….sounds like you got some goodies this winter….yea the waves were really good here too!!

Ok, so the magic board for you would be

a 6’0″ x 20″ x 2 5/8″ Falcon.

This is the high performance all around shortboard version of the Rascal II. Still carries the same speed through flat spots and has that same skateboardy feel, but is more responsive in the critical parts of the wave and will go more vertical without the front end hiccupping when bringing it back around. The deck is flatter than that of a traditional board and the volume of the foam carried out to a fuller boxier rail. Packing and shipping to your door is approximately $150.00 and includes full coverage insurance.
Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a magic Falcon. Looking forward to your reply,
aloha,

Todd

Hey Todd.  That sounds exactly like what I’m looking for.  You have an epoxy falcon 6″0 x 20″ x 2 1/2″ in stock right now which I would love to order but it is 1/8″ thinner and I’m not sure if that would make a big difference.  What do you think?  Thanks a lot.

Kyle

super fast high performance surfboard

Hi Todd,

How are you Divine Shape Master? I ordered a poly Rascal II with my friend Mark (who ordered a Greased Pig) last year from you and had them shipped to Taiwan,

and the boards have been the magic carpet

we’ve been searching for for the last 4 years,

I ride it in 2 foot slop to overhead

and it goes awesome.

Now I would like to have something that surfs more like a regular short board but still have the groveler qualities too. My friend Steve  also ordered a Greased Pig (EPS) and

he and I are about the same build

(5’9″, 190 pounds, his EPS Greased Pig is

6’0″x19.5×2.5 with channels and 5-fin option).

What dimensions would you make my Greased Pig if I ordered one?

I would like to get the Proxy Epoxy version with the round elliptical channels and the five-fin option. I would like to have it shipped to my friend’s place in OC and he will bring it to taiwan for me. Thanks so much for you input on this, take care and talk to you soon.
David
http://www.proctorsurf.com/Surf-Boards/Rascal-II

Hi David,

Thanks for your glowing greeting….wow, I’m humbled by your stoke….yeawhoo. I checked the dimensions from your Rascal II and read through your comments below….

the magic Greased Pig would be

5’10” – 6’0” x 19 ¼” – 19 ½” x 2 ½”.

If your Rascal II paddled you fine and you think you could go a touch smaller than I think you could drop down to the 5’10 x 19 ¼” dims for a Greased Pig, but if the Rascal feels just right, than you would want to go with the slightly larger dims i.e. 6’0” x 19 ½”.

The rocker is more than a Rascal, but still flatter than a convention shorty…..and the outline is also more pulled in than the Rascal, but fuller than a conventional shortboard.

So basically you get a super fast

high performance board

with more of a shortboard feel in maneuvers and in critical areas of the more hollow steeper parts of the wave,

but still maintaining the easy speed feel

very much similar to that of the Rascal boards.

The four parabolic channels work insane on this board and I recommend them for sure …..as well as the five fin option.  Charissa mentioned to me that you wanted to know if the tail is narrower and more tuned for making pockety surfing easier than on the Rascal….the answer is yes it is slightly narrower as well as a bit more bend/ rocker through the fin cluster to allow the board to pull a tighter arc in the critical zone.

The tail block is also more pulled in than the Rascal, but not as pulled as a normal performance shorty. Ok, well hope that answers your questions. Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. We can do skype too if that works for you as sometimes it is really hard for me to follow up e-mail in as timely manner as I would like….but whatever works best for you…

Aloha,
Todd

http://www.proctorsurf.com/Surf-Boards/Greased-Pig

what I am looking for, is to have an all around quiver

Hi Todd :

This is Antonio, from Taiwan ( falcon surfboard )

I have been thinking in adding one or two of your boards to my quiver.  I am going back home for summer vacations at the end of June and have to make a stop in LA, so doesn’t have to pay extra for the shipment is really tentative.

I also we be road traveling and surfing during the holidays

( Guatemala, el salvador and maybe Nicaragua ).

Anyways, what I am looking for, is to have an all around quiver, if possible with 2 boards but if you recommend me 3 ( including the falcon )  to cover all, I will agree with your opinion.

As I mentioned to you Taiwan wave are not the so powerfull, but they can get during thyphoons. So I have been thinking to add a more shortboard style  for those good days in Taiwan, but with abilities to work in not only perfect conditions ( Monsta :) vs Accelerator vs Greased Pig II ) and for the typhoon season and traveling a round pin tail with more rocker and good versatility ( blakbird vs sr-71).

But what do I know! Please let me know you recommendation, last time was the perfect choice.

Really looking forward to get the sickest quiver in Taiwan !!!

Some info about me:
Height: 5’8
Weight:
Age: 24
Level: Intermediate ( learning fast )

A.Parlange

by the way everyone who tries your falcon, loves it !!!

Hi Antonio,

Good to hear from you. Sounds like you are going to have some fun surfing holidays. I have heard and seen really good waves in Nicaragua and I know Guatemala and El Salvador are really good too….exciting.
As for the first board….the Monsta is still kinda similar to the Falcon you have already. So I would go with either the Accelerator at 6’0″ x 18 5/8″ x 2 1/4″ with a rounded squash or swallowtail…or you could go with a Greased Pig II at 5’10″ x 18 7/8″ x 2 5/16″ with a swallowtail.

The Greased Pig II is faster in small waves

than the Accelerator, but the Accelerator

is fast also, but more responsive in the

faster hollow shaped small waves.

I would tend towards the Greased Pig II I think that would be a good call for you for a small wave high performance board that carries quick speed and is still versatile and will handle up to head high.

The second board I know for sure you should go with a 6’2″ x 18 1/2″ x 2 5/16″ SR-71 with a thumbtail/ round pin.

This is my personal favorite board

and it just works insane when the

waves are good….the increased rocker allows

you to surf the bigger/ hollower days with

the perfect blend of speed and control for

quick top to bottom pocket ripping.

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a Greased Pig II and SR-71 for home and adventures. Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha, Todd

Hi Todd:

Thanks for your time, explaining me the options. Really appreciate it.

I think the SR-71 will fit perfectly for those typhoon days and to take it for surfing really good waves during trips.  I have read some people change this board to fulcrum, what is the difference or advantage ?

The Fulcrum is a subtle design change-up in the rocker which makes the board more versatile…..going good in smaller waves and still in good waves too and with that same SR-71 smooth carving speed feel….just in a wider range of surf and conditions. I decrease the entry rocker and increase the tail rocker….this makes the board faster paddling into waves early, quicker down the line and looser and more responsive in the pocket and through maneuvers.

The one I’m not sure is the middle one, you have so many options in this range, and all of them looks great and to fit my needs.

This is my opinion, I will really appreciate your input, last time your advice was the perfect decision.

Greased pig II; the newest model of all :) , looks like a really good small to medium wave board with tons of speed, but so the falcon, how diferenciates with it? Have you made it with a squash tail?

The Greased Pig II has more rocker than the falcon, but less than a “good waves” performance shortboard….so it is still quick in small waves, yet has more hold and responsiveness going vertical….more snappy in the pocket and a little less carvy on the face.

Accelerator; I like the responsiveness in faster hollow waves you explain to me, and the fact you choose it as your quiver board together with the Sr-71 and the falcon. But that was before the greased pig II came alive, so not sure if overall the greased pig suit me better.

Currently my personal favorites are the SR-71/G-4.f, the accelerator, the greased pig II, and the Pavote. I ride them in that order from big and clean waves to small and mushy.

G4 E & F (not sure about the diference); I saw John ( a friend from Taidong, Taiwan ) surfing it, and after that, I read the description in your page and looks also a really good all around shortboard, with tons of versatility.

Blackbird; this have been my favorite board since the first time I saw your boards, looks just amazing!!! I was hoping you will recommend me that one, but maybe is not for me. Looks to work in everything with more punch and a little more size, that my falcon needs. If the blackbird II on production now? How do you think will fit with the falcon & sr-71, maybe a squash tail a little bit more wider outline could work?

yea actually this is a great board and probably one of the most popular with pro surfers….it looks the vertical fins free surfing and is a very back footed board. Some people don’t like it that much in small waves, but most surfers love it in good waves and for doing the most modern progressive maneuvers. I do a version with a slightly fuller outline which makes it more of an all-around board instead of just a good waves board. If you like the looks of it and the description and have always wanted to try that one, then I say go for it….it is for sure a winner.

I think that’s all of my choices, in the final I  will choose the board you think will fit me better between the falcon and the sr-71. As I mentioned to you, I looking for the most balanced quiver possible!

The Greased Pig II would be the one that would fit right in the middle between those two boards the best.

Sorry for all the questions, is hard to choose when you don’t  have the proper knowledge and experienced with surfboards.

Thanks again for your time and patience, really glad to have the opportunity to buy my boards from you.

Saludos, A.Parlange

Hi Todd…Thanks for the reply !

After reading your last mail,

I have decided to go with the SR-71 fulcrum

and the Greased pig II as you recommend me.

great

About the greased pig, I saw in the older greased pig you made it also with a squash tail, and instead of the winger a hip. Personally I like it more in that way, but not sure if you still recommend that changes with the new greased pig II. Please if possible, let me know your opinion about that changes ?

The greased Pig II can be ordered with the wide hip squash tail …and that is what I recommend as well…

I was thinking to put some carbon rails to the GP2, same as my falcon, the falcon feels great in the small and not to powerful surf, really lively and kind of accelerates or make you feel that turns faster. What is your experienced with the GP2 w/carbon rails, do you also recommend it ?

It works great with the carbon rails….I recommend it….very springy and lively.

About the Sr-71, no changes other than the fulcrum, other than that, I will like it as you recommend me.

I send you my info again, last time I forgot to put my weight, so we can confirm the best dimensions for me;

Dimensions listed previously are perfect for your height and weight….so that should remain the same.

Height: 5’8 ft (1.74 m)
Weight: 160 lb
Age: 24

Thanks for your time helping me to decide my boards! Really looking forward to tried them !

Your welcome, my pleasure. I will have Charissa e-mail the breakdown/ invoice for everything later this week or early next week as we are having a bit of a stay at home vacation this week….but still following up on some works stuff as time permits. Speak soon, Aloha, Todd

Saludos, A.Parlange

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super quick board, but with the hold and maneuverability of a performance shortboard

Todd,

Since moving to San Diego from the SF Bay Area about five years ago,

I have been on a quest to find a small wave board

for average everyday surf.

I’ve experimented with everything from groveler type boards to modernized fish types and have not been able to find that magic shape that I can ride in area reef and beach breaks when the surf is small and mushy to somewhat punchy/decent in the knee to shoulder high range.

Complicating matters is that I’m a 40 yr old 200 lb guy.

However, I’m in good shape and surf 2-3 times a week.

My current small wave board is a quad fish (6’0” x 21” x 2.4”) with a concave deck, fairly pulled in tail and volume moved out towards the rails. It works well in mushy surf of any size up to head high, but struggles in the more punchy stuff with setting that fat rail and vertical turning in the pocket.

I love the down the line speed of the fish,

but want to be able to do short board moves in small surf.

I’m thinking I want more of a groveler type and am interested in your Greased Pig but also very curious about the Apache. My regular short board is a 6’6” x 19.5” x 2.65” swallow tail. I really won’t pull that board out unless it is head high and good and is mainly a Blacks board. If the surf surpasses the 8’ mark I have a 6’8” step-up for that. I’m trying to maintain a three board quiver and that small board is going to be a primary ride workhorse, so I need something that is pretty versatile. My style is pretty heavy footed and I use the rail a lot for turns. What do you suggest?

John

Hi John,

I think you’re spot on the right track and have done your homework super good.

The Greased Pig is what you’re looking for…..

super quick board, but with the hold and

maneuverability of a performance shortboard.

I would go 6’2′ – 6’4″ x 20″ x 2 5/8″+.

For heavy footed powerful guys

I make the concaves slightly heavier…..

this gives the board  nice positive hold when you push hard on it, it pushed back with positive speed this way. The Greased Pig surfs quick in the pocket and will keep things way more vertical than a typical fish or grovely kind of board.
The Apache is rad too, but for you I think you will gain more of the vertical thing and a more versatile board for you area of waves than with the Apache who’s fuller nose can get a little touchy sometimes when you wanna through right in the hook….the Apache’s best qualities are at the pointbreak setups.
Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be frothin’ on a Greased Pig.
Looking forward to your reply,
aloha,

Todd

Todd,

Thanks for your response. The Greased Pig sounds like what I’m looking for.

The Greased Pig

What type of board would Todd recommend for a beach break type of wave that is really short and pretty weak?

What type of board would Todd recommend for a beach break type of wave that is really short and pretty weak?

Looking for something that can generate speed very quickly as the wave doesn’t give you much time to build speed.

Ok, this is where one of those new designs I was talking about would go insane…..

cause I realize everybody almost everywhere has conditions like what you describe…so that’s why I designed the “Monsta”: you ride this board a couple inches longer than a Rascal, about 1/4″ narrower and right around the same volume maybe just a hair less on the rail volume. I’m using the same basic rail line rocker as the Rascal II, but have dug out all the spiral vee through the back third of the board and run instead an even single concave throughout the entire bottom of the board with inset double concaves through the back 1/3 of the board and through the fins….there is even a slight concave running right off the tailblock. This gives the board a wide open sweet spot, a lot of quick get up and go right off the bat, and also gives the board really positive hold through more critical, vertical turns in the pocket. The outline is changed up to more of a full outlined shortboard as opposed to a roundnosed front end. I think you could go 5’7″ x 19″ x 2 1/4″ Monsta with a winged diamond tail or a wide hip squash. Don’t need channels with this new hull contour, but the five fin is still sick for it.

My friend is interested in a board too…he’s a big dude though…5’11 220 lbs.

He rides a Boardworks Epoxy Hynson Fish 6’6 x 21” 7/8 x 2” 3/4 — has Todd made boards for big guys?

I make tons of boards for bigger guys actually….

since many stock boards in shops don’t have what is right for a lot of these guys, I am able to give them something that is the right volume, yet still a board they can rip on….and not just a big plug. I think he would be stoked on a Monsta also. I think he could drop it down a bit, but keep the thickness up…..like 6’3″ x 21 1/2″ x 2 7/8″ with a winged diamond or a wide hip squash.  Five fin setup is good too. I’ll have Charissa send you a picture of what I’m talking about tomorrow. I’ve got a bunch of them going right now for guys around here they are starting to take off. Please let me know your thoughts when you’ve received the new pics of the Monsta. BTW….this is my current favorite board and I’ve been riding it in everything unless it’s way overhead…Ok well hope that helps. Talk to you soon, and thanks again for the killer review,

Aloha,

Todd

Thanks, Neal   -Surfboard Shack

Last Board:Custom Proxy Epoxy Rascal II5’5″ x 19 1/4″ x 2 1/4″ moontail
5 fin install/ parabolic channels

Hey Todd, thanks for the detailed insight…haven’t met too many shaperswilling to provide so much detail and explanation.

Hope you don’t mind but I had a few questions. What is the difference

in performance between the rascal 2 and monsta?

How does the monsta compare to the other rascal variations like the

falcon or el pavote?

Also, how does the monsta perform compared to your small wave

grovelers eg greased pig &  Module?

Can’t wait to see photos of the monsta! I’ll show my buddy when I get

them. Thanks!

Neal


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