Todd,

Since moving to San Diego from the SF Bay Area about five years ago,

I have been on a quest to find a small wave board

for average everyday surf.

I’ve experimented with everything from groveler type boards to modernized fish types and have not been able to find that magic shape that I can ride in area reef and beach breaks when the surf is small and mushy to somewhat punchy/decent in the knee to shoulder high range.

Complicating matters is that I’m a 40 yr old 200 lb guy.

However, I’m in good shape and surf 2-3 times a week.

My current small wave board is a quad fish (6’0” x 21” x 2.4”) with a concave deck, fairly pulled in tail and volume moved out towards the rails. It works well in mushy surf of any size up to head high, but struggles in the more punchy stuff with setting that fat rail and vertical turning in the pocket.

I love the down the line speed of the fish,

but want to be able to do short board moves in small surf.

I’m thinking I want more of a groveler type and am interested in your Greased Pig but also very curious about the Apache. My regular short board is a 6’6” x 19.5” x 2.65” swallow tail. I really won’t pull that board out unless it is head high and good and is mainly a Blacks board. If the surf surpasses the 8’ mark I have a 6’8” step-up for that. I’m trying to maintain a three board quiver and that small board is going to be a primary ride workhorse, so I need something that is pretty versatile. My style is pretty heavy footed and I use the rail a lot for turns. What do you suggest?

John

Hi John,

I think you’re spot on the right track and have done your homework super good.

The Greased Pig is what you’re looking for…..

super quick board, but with the hold and

maneuverability of a performance shortboard.

I would go 6′2′ – 6′4″ x 20″ x 2 5/8″+.

For heavy footed powerful guys

I make the concaves slightly heavier…..

this gives the board  nice positive hold when you push hard on it, it pushed back with positive speed this way. The Greased Pig surfs quick in the pocket and will keep things way more vertical than a typical fish or grovely kind of board.
The Apache is rad too, but for you I think you will gain more of the vertical thing and a more versatile board for you area of waves than with the Apache who’s fuller nose can get a little touchy sometimes when you wanna through right in the hook….the Apache’s best qualities are at the pointbreak setups.
Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be frothin’ on a Greased Pig.
Looking forward to your reply,
aloha,

Todd

Todd,

Thanks for your response. The Greased Pig sounds like what I’m looking for.

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What type of board would Todd recommend for a beach break type of wave that is really short and pretty weak?

Looking for something that can generate speed very quickly as the wave doesn’t give you much time to build speed.

Ok, this is where one of those new designs I was talking about would go insane…..

cause I realize everybody almost everywhere has conditions like what you describe…so that’s why I designed the “Monsta”: you ride this board a couple inches longer than a Rascal, about 1/4″ narrower and right around the same volume maybe just a hair less on the rail volume. I’m using the same basic rail line rocker as the Rascal II, but have dug out all the spiral vee through the back third of the board and run instead an even single concave throughout the entire bottom of the board with inset double concaves through the back 1/3 of the board and through the fins….there is even a slight concave running right off the tailblock. This gives the board a wide open sweet spot, a lot of quick get up and go right off the bat, and also gives the board really positive hold through more critical, vertical turns in the pocket. The outline is changed up to more of a full outlined shortboard as opposed to a roundnosed front end. I think you could go 5′7″ x 19″ x 2 1/4″ Monsta with a winged diamond tail or a wide hip squash. Don’t need channels with this new hull contour, but the five fin is still sick for it.

My friend is interested in a board too…he’s a big dude though…5’11 220 lbs.

He rides a Boardworks Epoxy Hynson Fish 6’6 x 21” 7/8 x 2” 3/4 — has Todd made boards for big guys?

I make tons of boards for bigger guys actually….

since many stock boards in shops don’t have what is right for a lot of these guys, I am able to give them something that is the right volume, yet still a board they can rip on….and not just a big plug. I think he would be stoked on a Monsta also. I think he could drop it down a bit, but keep the thickness up…..like 6′3″ x 21 1/2″ x 2 7/8″ with a winged diamond or a wide hip squash.  Five fin setup is good too. I’ll have Charissa send you a picture of what I’m talking about tomorrow. I’ve got a bunch of them going right now for guys around here they are starting to take off. Please let me know your thoughts when you’ve received the new pics of the Monsta. BTW….this is my current favorite board and I’ve been riding it in everything unless it’s way overhead…Ok well hope that helps. Talk to you soon, and thanks again for the killer review,

Aloha,

Todd

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Hey Todd, thanks for the detailed insight…haven’t met too many shaperswilling to provide so much detail and explanation.

Hope you don’t mind but I had a few questions. What is the difference

in performance between the rascal 2 and monsta?

How does the monsta compare to the other rascal variations like the

falcon or el pavote?

Also, how does the monsta perform compared to your small wave

grovelers eg greased pig &  Module?

Can’t wait to see photos of the monsta! I’ll show my buddy when I get

them. Thanks!

Neal

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Hey Todd.

I am particularly interested in possibly

your lil’rascal shape.

I am in pretty good shape,

but want really good float for smaller waves.

Just something small that can fit the face

of a smaller wave and something to just have

a blast on-however, I really want buoyancy as well.

Hi Timmy,

Hi Todd,

Well, my home break is Wrightsville Beach, NC.

It is all beach break here where I surf.

We get quite a bit of mushy type waves

without alot of push, but do get days mixed in

where there is a little more punch to the waves.

I am a back foot surfer by nature as well.

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Is the Lacerator the same board as the Superbank

or is it tweaked like a newer version.

I’m wanting to put together a quiver of solely your boards and Im going to start with 8.

I just needed some clarification on the Lacerator. Thank you for your time.

Hayden Gaddis

Hi Hayden,

Nice to meet you.

Yea, the Lacerator is an updated superbank.

I have dropped a bit of the entry rocker from the original Superbank design, but have kept the mid through the tail rocker the same and kept the same hull contours (single to inset doubles).

This gives the Lacerator a bit more versatility

getting into waves earlier, quicker through the flat spots,

but without sacrificing any responsiveness in the pocket….where it’s home is.

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a quiver of custom Proctors.

Looking forward to working with you,

Aloha,

Todd

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First Name

JUSTIN

Age

28

Height

6ft 1in

Weight

200lbs

Experience

surfed growing up at outer banks of NC from age 10 to 17, moved inland have not surfed since. Joined army at age 24. now when not deployed I live in Tacoma WA. Located close (driving distance) to westport jetty in wa. I want to get back into it. I know it will come back when I get on the board. I am in good shape. I am a Special Forces Combat Diver. I know I can paddle and fight breakers. But I need a little stability to help me get back into the groove.

Type of board you’re interested in

funboard
Type of waves you will be surfing with this board
westport wa average 6ft.

The direction you want to go with your surfing

As good as I can get. Will travel to Ca to catch waves when I can

What boards are you currently riding?

Started with a body board till my mother decided i was old enough to ride a surfboard. Always had short boards never ridden a long board. Currently Have a 6ft 2in board that I have not ridden in years.

Hi Justin,

Sorry to not get back with you sooner….been really busy here….anyway, I checked out all your info you submitted and

I know the perfect dimensions for your

Funshape: 7’2” – 7’6” x 20 ½” x 2 ¾”

with a rounded squashtail.

If you go with the shorter length, you will get more performance and responsiveness, but will lose a bit of paddleability and stability. If you go with the longer dims, then you’ll get more stability and paddleability and may sacrifice just a little performance on the smaller scale days.

The Funshape design will give you the

paddleability and stability necessary to get

you back on track without frustrating you.

This is still a full on performance oriented board that will challenge you, but without the frustration of riding a shortboard that is too small. The Funshape will also allow you to progress without the need of switching to a different shape. Basically, in time, you will be able to surf this like a high performance shortboard design, but with some added stability and paddleability.
Ok, so fins I would go with are the Futures fin system…they are the strongest and I feel best for anyone over 185 since the entire base of the fin is set into the board which gives a good positive drive to the board. I would go with a tri-fin and the perfect template is the AM-2 fin since it has a good amount of base to the fin which will complement your build and translate to a quick and drivey board.
We can do the “now war arose in heaven” artwork for you too….it looks killer. That particular artwork runs $175.00 but like I said it looks sick.
Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a custom Proctor Funshape.
Looking forward to your reply,
and thank you for your service to our country,
Aloha,

Todd

Todd

Thanx for getting back to me.

How bout 7′ 4″ x 20 1/2″ x 2 3/4″ for size.

I appreciate all the sound information. I will take the fin set up you suggested and the art work. I am also wondering about a rear grip pad and a leash, if you have suggestions concerning those. Also ? on total price, how long do you need to have everything done by March, and how much down for you to start the work. I was working in the philippine ocean the other day and day dreaming about this board can’t wait man thanx for all the help.

Justin

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Hey Todd,

I ordered a custom 6’2 G4-E from you about half a year go or so and I half to say I am greatly impressed…

I have put the board through hell being that I am new to surfing and this was my fist board that wasn’t borrowed..

My surfing has progressed really fast and I have been thinking about getting another board from you for waves chest high and below… I moved to okinawa and I am surfing reef breaks.

I would like a board that can catch

pretty much anything, is loose, and fast.

I learn quick so don’t worry too much about my experience. I remember when I first got my board from you and everyone says dude that board is going to be way to hard for you to learn on and how it would be to fast for me.. The first wave I went for was about waist high and choppy and I caught it..

I fell in love with that board instantly..

Although the board has been through 2-3 foot VA mush to overhead hurricane bill swell in OBX to waist-head high hollow Okinawa reef breaks, I would like to have something a little more loose and fast on the smaller waves..

I also want to try out your polyproxy

construction this time as well.

What do you think about a quad? I wont be ready to order for a couple months but I am serious about getting this board.

I also have a friend who

loves how strong my board is and

how few pressure dings it has in it

and is getting a board from you when I get mine.. All I have is good things to tell people about your board and service.. Thanks allot for jumpstarting my surfing and I look forward to getting new boards from you in the future and spreading your name. Just let me know what you have in mind for me.

Take care,
Vaughn

Hi Vaughn,

Good to hear from you and stoked the board has gone so well for you….and in so many conditions….yew.

So here’s a few choices to choose from as to what I have in mind for the next magic board for smaller, mushier stuff to speed on:

Either the Greased Pig, the Greased Rascal,

The Rascal II or the Falcon….

one of these would be the board for you.

Each of them are made for performance

surfing in the weaker stuff.

They all generate incredible speed without having to rely on the wave to generate it for them. I recommend checking out the website to read a breakdown on each one….from there one of them will strike you as “the one”….that is the one to go with.  As far as dimensions go, what is your current height and weight. I can break down the ideal dimensions once I receive that info. If you have any questions regarding the different boards I listed above, please don’t hesitate to ask so I can give you any further explanation.

Ok, well speak soon,

Aloha,

Todd

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Hey Todd

I was checking out the greased pig on your site.

I was looking for a new everyday board

for waist to head high + .

as far as size I was thinking 5′10” x 19.5” x 2 3/8” .   My only question would be single or double bump in the tail and whether I should go thruster or quad.   If I was going to go with four fins I figured it would work better with the wider tail or single wing.  I dont like four fins on real pulled in tails.

At the same time I wanted something

that will pivot off the bottom and

be able to go vertical

where I’ve rode quads that have trouble doing that. Any suggestions.

Mike

Hi Mike,

Good to hear from you.

The Greased Pig is a great board and one of my favorites.

It jams in small waves and gives you the speed

to do all the turns and maneuvers that you

can’t normally do on a regular board

in those same conditions.

Also, what is very cool is that it is really versatile for a small wave board in that it will surf up to head high + and still run clean.

This board goes quick and loose

(like a quad) already

without the need to loosen it up more as a four fin….I find the tri fin is my favorite since it does more of exactly what you mention…..holds and pivots vertical and lets you lay into it in tight, snappy turns.

I have been having people get them with five fin (boxes) set-up so it can be ridden as a trifin or quad…..and that works really well and gives you the opportunity to enjoy the best of both worlds.  What is your current height and weight, so I can crosscheck that with your suggested dimensions.

The tail is pretty wide already on the

Greased Pig

so I don’t recommend going wider…..

it works great for both tri or quad as it is.

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a magic Greased Pig.

Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,

Todd

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Todd,
 
I am having trouble deciding on what style of board I  I should buy.

I fall into the category of a beginner for my lack of time

in the water, but I  I feel I  I have the physical ability

to surf at the next level, I  I just need a better understanding of the waves.

I will be spending most of my days in Costa Rica surfing chest to head high beach breaks, mushy slop, and maybe some super long lefts, so having a good all arround board is key. (this will be my first one of course)

I am 23, a short 5′6″ and anywhere in between 155-160.

I am looking for a board that will go down the line quick,

paddle well and be fairly stable.

A 6′0 x 19.5-20″ w, swallow quad was kind of what I  I had in mind (but what do I know). And lastly could you give me the low down on the carbon fiber rail idea I think thats rad.
 
Thanks

Hi Graedy,

The most versatile all-around performance shortboard I make is called the G-4.E. I think this would be the magic board for you. This board generates incredible speed in the small gutless stuff, yet also holds in affording stability and positive drive in the punchier and more powerful waves as well….the best of both worlds type of board I like to call it. It has a single to inset double concave bottom which yields excellent down the line speed.

I recommend going 6’0” x 19 ½” x 2 ½” -

swallowtail quad version works great with this board too…..

what is really popular is the five fin box setup…..then you can ride the board as a thruster/ tri-fin or quad making even more versatile in a wider variety of conditions – sort of like having two boards in one.  These dimensions would be a bit more board than typically someone your height and weight would ride, but these dims will be good for you to afford you the extra paddle-ability and stability necessary for where you are at with your surfing currently. But know also that this design will challenge you, but without frustrating you; and will

allow you to progress into the performance realm

of surfing without the need to switch to a

different board as you progress.

The carbon rails is a very durable and high performance design feature of the construction of the board. They are an upgrade and done only with the Proxy construction; which is my custom epoxy construction. The Proxy is 3-5 times stronger that standard foam and fiberglass and has a flex pattern that adds incredible performance to the board. This is where the carbon rails also come into play.

By eliminating a center stringer and strengthening the

rail structure of the board, the board has a

very lively flex characteristic that makes it feel

like it is slingshotting through turns.

I have great results with this upgrade option.

Ok, well hope that was able to answer some of your questions. Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a magic Proctor. Looking forward to your reply,
Aloha,

Todd

Todd

Thanks for all the info…..What would this ride like if we went a bit shorter lets say 5′10-5′11″, and a bit wider like 20-20.5? If this is even possible. When I started to look for surfboards I was chasing around the fat round fish idea (not sure why) but I think if we can put a swallow and a boxed five fin this would turn out good. Can you swallow a 5 fin?..i think I would ride it as a quad (they are supposed to be more stable correct?) I know that once I get to surf on a regular basis I will be improving fairly fast so a board that has room for improvement is key… I am not very familiar with the different types of boards, aka foam,epoxy,proxy….(those carbon rails look so sick!!) All I know is being that I am fairly new to the sport I will eat sh*t lots and

I am gonna need a board that will take a fair amount of punishment…..

Last but not least I am gonna need some prices on this magic board.
I quickly looked thru your artwork and there so many I can’t decide…what is the difference in price between the airbrush, spraycan, paintpen??

Thanks again for all your help,
Graedy

Hi Graedy,

I answered your questions below in blue…

Todd
Thanks for all the info…..What would this ride like if we went a bit shorter lets say 5′8″, and a bit wider like 20-20.5?

As from your last e-mail, I think we could go 5’11” – 6’0” x 20” x 2 ½” for the dimensions….and as for the design, I think we could actually go with a bit of a compromise between a standard performance board and a fuller outlined board (like you mentioned regarding a round nose fish sort of design). Well, I have a little board I’ve been doing for the last year or so that is absolutely amazing….it is called the Falcon. The Falcon is super fast like fish, but it has the performance, responsiveness and holding capacities of a high performance shortboard design. It paddles like a champ and flies in small waves, yet also goes mental in good waves….so it’s range is from two foot and mushy to overhead.

If this is even possible. When i started to look for surfboards i was chasing arround the fat round fish idea (not sure why) but i think if we can put a swallow and a boxed five fin this would turn out good. Can you swallow a 5 fin?..i think i would ride it as a quad (they are supposed to be more stable correct?) I know that once i get to surf on a regular baisis i will be improving fairly fast so a board that has room for improvement is key…

the Falcon will match where you are at now, yet will bring out a new performance realm in your surfing also….this design is a favorite across the board from professional surfers to novice.

I am not very familliar with the different types of boards, aka foam,epoxy,proxy….(thoes carbon rails look so sick!!)All i know is bieng that iam fairly new to the sport i will eat sh*t lots and iam gonna need a board that will take a fair amount of punishment….. Last but not least iam gonna need some prices on this magic board.

These two go hand in hand…..the traditional foam and fiberglass boards (polyester construction) are $605.00. The five fin upgrade is an additional $45.00. The Proxy construction is $750.00….and the five fin upgrade is additional $45.00. The Proxy is the premier board I make for both strength and performance (they last approximately 3-5 times longer/ stronger than traditional polyester construction). The carbon rails work insane also as I explained to you in my previous e-mail….the carbon rails are an additional cost of $100.00 since carbon is a high grade composite and the fabrication process on the board is timeconsuming….but it is definitely worth it.

I quickly looked thru your artwork and there so many i cant decide…what is the difference i price between the airbrush,spraycan,paintpen??

The price varies anywhere from $65.00 to $250.00 on the airbrushes and rattlecan art depending upon what you want. You can check out the different ones and let me know which number you like and I’ll get you a price for it. The rattlecan sprays run between $65.00 – $85.00. Please keep in mind the artwork up on the site is just there to give you some ideas of what we have done and are capable of doing, but it is not limited to what you see there. Basically we can do anything you can think up, but we can’t quote you until we understand what it is you would like.

Ok bro, well please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a custom Proctor Falcon Proxy with carbon rails. Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,
Todd

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Hey Todd and Charissa,

I am sooo stoked right now for two reasons. Reason one being that my custom Falcon should be very close to completion… but this is not the reason I am emailing you right now.

Right now I am in Costa Rica, on vacation, staying at out place in Playa Hermosa. I saw from your website and your facebook that you too had been to Playa Hermosa from seeing pictures at places like Jungle Surf Cafe and Wishbone.
Down here, my dad has 3 boards, a 6′6, a 6′7, and a 7 something Semi-gun. All of these are much too long for me so we went into Jaco in search of a used shortboard about 6′0 in the $200- $300 price range.
Spending over an hour seaching through over 6 surf shops, we found a couple of boards that would suit me, but not exactly what I wanted like a 5′11 that was very thin (maybe like 1 1/2′), a 6′0 that had been previously snapped and was in bad shape, and a bunch of great new boards that were over $600 dollars.
After our search through town, we had decided on a board, that was not great, but would work for about $350.
We went to dinner at Jungle Surf (our favorite place for breakfast and dinner) and we remembered that they had a couple of boards there too. So, we went into the shop and found a 5′8 board that was thicker and wider, so we figured it would be a suitable board and kind of fun. After, having dinner, we went into the shop to purchase the board and the girl running the shop told us that she had one more board in the back that she could sell to us.
We walk outside and the first thing I saw was the Proctor logo across the board. I flipped out, telling her how I knew the guy who shapes these boards and how he’s shaping me one back at home.
It is the Groveler IV model, 6′0 x 18 1/2 x 2 1/4. PERFECT. It was exactly what I wanted. Expecting it to be super expensive, I asked for the price and flipped out even more when she responded with: $250.
I am stoked beyond belief buying a Proctor board in Costa Rica, and then coming home to getting my custom Falcon.
I’m sure you remember shaping this board. Did you ride it, or did you sell it to someone, or did you sell it directly to Jungle Surf or what? I’m really interested in what this board did previously.

This is soo sweet and thank you for shaping awesome boards. I will send you another email once I ride it tommorow morning.

- Nick Frazier

P.S. I’m sorry for this being sooo long, I just had to tell you the whole story.

from Original Owner,

I’m stoked it landed in somebodys hands who will really appreciate it.  That was one of my favorite boards of all time, and i was kind of hesistant on selling it.  I hope he gets as many fun waves on it that i did.  I’m sure he will.

………………………………….

Thats sooo cool.

I have just rode it for the past 3 days and i cannot get off of it. Definitely the best shortboard I have ever ridden and it could not be more perfect for me and these waves.

Thanks,
Nick

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Aloha from Oahu, Hawaii:

Would you have an epoxy Big Chief

for my stats below?

Ht: 5’9”
Wt: 195-200 lbs
Surf experience: Been surfing since 1974
Surf frequency: 1-2 times per week (the past 4 years)

Surf style: front foot, rail-to-rail surfing

Surf spots:  Diamond Head-Cliffs/Right Hands, 2-4 ft (Hawaiian scale); Waikiki-Threes/Pops/Paradise, 2-5 ft. (Hawaiian scale)
Current surfboard:  6’9” x 21” x 3 ¼” Aipa epoxy sting with vector 3-2-1 fins, too much float for me now and hard to really drive the rails to get vertical on the wave.
Best board ever:  6’0” Aipa Town & Country, round-pin, thruster – best all-around board in 2-5 ft surf  (Hawaiian scale) when I weighed 185 lbs.

Mahalo,
Dominic

Hi Dominic,

I used to live on Oahu years ago….great memories from surfing all over the island.

I recommend dropping down to a

6’6” x 20” x 2 ¾” Proxy Big Chief….

that would be the magic board for you….We have one coming through stock production or we could make one custom for you. Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a magic Proctor. Looking forward to your reply,
Aloha,

Todd

Thank you for the email reply & to hear that you lived on Oahu!

These dims are what I was thinking,

as on the really small 1-2 ft. days,

I ride a 6’5” x 21 x 2.5” Gotcha semi-fish thruster

I purchased from Sam’s Club.  It’s way looser than the Aipa, but just short of the float (since it’s a poly board) that I need to get enough speed on the take-offs.

The stock production sounds good!  When do you expect to have them ready and how much would I be looking at for it to be shipped to me?  My wife told me I could get a new board by putting aside money each month — I am somewhat half-way there — and I realize you only accept credit cards…not a problem for me.

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